tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post1164857547837713692..comments2023-10-25T07:19:08.019-05:00Comments on The Nosy Gamer: When CCP Seagull Talks, People ListenNoizyGamerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-18771675094764293372014-10-22T13:36:53.435-05:002014-10-22T13:36:53.435-05:00I'm not entirely sure your argument holds true...I'm not entirely sure your argument holds true. Especially given that we, to a very large extent, are the content creators.<br /><br />There is also no point in having a go at CCP about a proposed feature when we know nothing except STARGATES! It is very unlikely they have any idea about its final implementation or functionality at this point in time either. It's something like two(?) years away, with a raft of underpinning changes prior to that.<br /><br />Any time CCP runs a balance pass on modules, ships, or say a small change with the jump drive mechanics, this changes the overall sandbox. <br />Emergent gameplay ensues, and voila! new content. It may not be to your liking, but there it is.<br /><br />Lastly, and going back to the stargates, anyone who tells you they know the exact shape, color, composition and horsepower two years out from delivery is selling something. <br /><br />Better that CCP hold their cards close until the prior and necessary changes filter through.Helena Khannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-52352055333349151402014-10-22T08:42:58.865-05:002014-10-22T08:42:58.865-05:00Mobile depots, syphons, tags4sec, new missions, be...Mobile depots, syphons, tags4sec, new missions, belt rats dropping nice blueprints, improved mining ships, many exploration improvements, improved dscan, easier to setup a POS in high-sec, easier travel with more wormhole sigs... and loads more that I can't be bothered to educate you on.<br /><br />It's not really a surprise to see you ignoring the blatant evidence against your position yet again. But oh no, there's one change where if you don't adapt, you don't do so well as before.<br /><br /><br /><br />That WoW reference looks to be spot on.CMIVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-51419440414841332352014-10-22T07:52:51.449-05:002014-10-22T07:52:51.449-05:00I've heard that refining and reprocessing in h...I've heard that refining and reprocessing in high sec as a solo player has become an absolutely fantastic business. Is that what you mean?Bill Bonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-29520114726365497272014-10-22T02:55:35.251-05:002014-10-22T02:55:35.251-05:00To expand on TurAmarth's comment and to blow h...To expand on TurAmarth's comment and to blow his trumpet a bit seeing as he's too modest to do so:<br /><br /><i>"I do mean it when I say that the vision is a journey for every capsuleer to be part of. I want EVE to have more things to do for small scale groups and solo pilots - and all over space"</i><br /><br />CCP Seagull, 2014/05/11 (from TurAmarth's blog)<br /><br />There are also plenty of other quotes around from other CCP employees that say similar things.<br /><br />But yeah Bill, you just keep on throwing your toys out of your pram because you've decided, without evidence, fact, logic or sound reason that CCP's vision is only for the benefit of null-sec coalitions. <br /><br /><br />Given how far away from reality you are, it's almost as if you don't play EvE and haven't got the slightest clue as to how the game is changing. Oh wait... you don't play EvE do you. <br /><br /><br /><br />P.S. are you Dinsdale's & Poetic Stanziel's love child?CMIVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-83002870948133887092014-10-21T17:17:48.805-05:002014-10-21T17:17:48.805-05:00I am aware that you were shocked and thrilled to g...I am aware that you were shocked and thrilled to get an answer from CCP Seagull, but you did not ask for who could use the new space, and certainly she didn't answered it. <br /><br />I've been wary of CCP Seagulls' plans since she wrote the "Crossing Rubicon" letter and pictured a future were only uberalliances would be able to access the new space beyond capsuleer stargates.<br /><br />We still are walking towards that future. She just told you that she plans to give you some consolation prize for being left behind.Bill Bonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-49977031345431413522014-10-21T15:39:50.811-05:002014-10-21T15:39:50.811-05:00Yea, ok... the WoW ref was cheap.... but it was wo...Yea, ok... the WoW ref was cheap.... but it was worth far more than everything you have said here.<br /><br /><br />BTW, do you read my blog? Not saying you should, and I care not if you do... but I too had the same fear... that the New Space was a Null only thing.<br /><br /><br /> Soooo I DID ask, quite directly and CCP Seagull herself herself DID answer... and THAT is worth moar than anything you could ever say... period.<br /><br /><br />Bill, either put on your big boy pants and quit running in circles yelling the sky is falling and who is to blame and DO something positive about it... or let the adults talk in peace.TurAmarthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-49961971759069142392014-10-21T13:35:49.081-05:002014-10-21T13:35:49.081-05:00I should add, this wasn't Dinsdale. Say what y...I should add, this wasn't Dinsdale. Say what you want about him, but he wouldn't post crap like I just deleted.NoizyGamerhttp://nosygamer.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-69430404623388671232014-10-21T13:25:02.260-05:002014-10-21T13:25:02.260-05:00I don't pre-screen the comments. I really have...I don't pre-screen the comments. I really haven't had a need to before. Sorry for not reading the comments for this.NoizyGamerhttp://nosygamer.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-57315743573218900722014-10-21T05:50:59.088-05:002014-10-21T05:50:59.088-05:00I suggest you look into the work Rise is doing aro...I suggest you look into the work Rise is doing around NPE.Megarom Stringscreamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-58329116864900682072014-10-21T04:00:04.413-05:002014-10-21T04:00:04.413-05:00I suggest you to ask CCP Seagull about going to th...I suggest you to ask CCP Seagull about going to the new space and where can be built the stargates leading to it. Someone should do it and clear the question once and forever. <br /><br />Because unless a noob can join today and try new space tomorrow (as wormholes are now), EVE will be pretty dead.<br /><br />BTW, the WoW reference was a cheap shot and you know it.Bill Bonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-15010770012794991082014-10-21T03:41:38.664-05:002014-10-21T03:41:38.664-05:00As one of the old farts, both in EVE and IRL I can...As one of the old farts, both in EVE and IRL I can tell you we have a 3 month old newbie in corp and living inna C3 wormhole... and we spent a few hours tonight chatting with a new bro and helping him out... So... =P<br /><br />Bill, it's simple... if you are that butthurt, go back and suckle on the safe warm WoW teat... and save us your ranting... even DImmy does it better and he's a god awful troll.TurAmarthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-21214782244163363262014-10-21T03:36:25.666-05:002014-10-21T03:36:25.666-05:00Per Sugar Kyle from CCP Seagull at the ”Ship
and ...Per Sugar Kyle from CCP Seagull at the ”Ship<br /> and Module Round Table”:<br /><br /><i>Q: The reduced need for cyno alts means fewer subscriptions. Is CCP worried about this?<br /><br />A: We absolutely expect there to be a reduction due to cyno accounts. We think that the balance this change is bringing will be good and bring other people to the game or back that will compensate.</i><br /><br />I think that bout answers you... they basically are gonna risk the change because it;s the right thing to do. It takes courage to do the right thing... I am well pleased and very grateful CCP is NOT scared of real change.TurAmarthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-31486839654984262322014-10-21T03:26:29.390-05:002014-10-21T03:26:29.390-05:00Frankly, if I was playing the game, I would not in...Frankly, if I was playing the game, I would not invite anyone to it. It has become a gerontocracy and that is likely to worsen up unless CCP grow some balls and bite the bullet about certain Holy ASS-umptions.<br /><br />From a business standpoint, EVE is withering from a lack of new blood and the absolute lack of retention for new blood unless they are very lucky and stumble on it before the gerontocrats strangle them in their craddle. New players regularly end up in high security space doing PvE and avoiding PvP against guys who totally out-everything them, and that is a terrible thing to do with appaling retention because CCP never bothered with it. So 80% of new players just come and go in a matter of months. <br /><br />CCP's solution has been to ask the old farts what do they want, and then compromise to spend all of 2013, 2014 and 2015 catering to them, and hope that they will not go away (despite some are being evicted from their niches) and others may come back (with any luck). <br /><br />You know that a company is in deep shit when they're releasing content each 6 weeks and the adverts say "come back " rather than "join now", and their plans are to stay this course for a year.Bill Bonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-83877852081028072772014-10-21T02:17:25.096-05:002014-10-21T02:17:25.096-05:00Thanks Noizy.
I am a veteran player who stopped pl...Thanks Noizy.<br />I am a veteran player who stopped playing since months, and only looks at some important games news. And reading your transcription was way better than all the things I saw on Reddit.<br />Her speech was almost enough to make me use a PLEX.<br />I stopped because of time limitation, and stagnation in null, and from I saw on the last patchs, and on her speech, is that she want to lessen those two things. And that she has a goal, that she will make her best to realize. And that's important. From what I read here and there, it seems CCP (and Seagull) is really doing what they (she) said months ago. It seems to me than EVE is evolving. Not enough for a bittervet like me for now, but enough for me to think than "soon"... What a bittervet needs are tree things : hope, facts, and results. I see hope on her speech, and I see facts on the last patchs and the next one. Results should come "soon".<br />People can say all they want that the player count is still dropping, but bittervet won't come back like that, it's VERY hard to make lots of them come back. They won't come back when change begin to appear. They will come back when change is well installed, others things are done, little things also, and people are talking about it and living it. And some weeks / months passed. Because they have way too much issues to trust now, so they will wait a lot. But if CCP delivers... and it "seems" so.raiden55noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-85647712410307802622014-10-20T17:19:40.545-05:002014-10-20T17:19:40.545-05:00I'm not so sure this new direction is working....I'm not so sure this new direction is working. Unfortunately, the player numbers continue to drop (see www.eve-offline.net). And working on null sov certainly isn't going to reverse the trend and attract new players.<br /><br />How much more player attrition can CCP handle, before it forces another layoff? That is what I'm afraid of.Larry Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-90584765927682845452014-10-20T11:24:05.400-05:002014-10-20T11:24:05.400-05:00lol. You come up with nothing but CCP trolling con...lol. You come up with nothing but CCP trolling conjecture and when asked for some provable facts call me a troll. What a drama queen. Goodbye.CMIVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-41680126562949491052014-10-20T11:20:09.445-05:002014-10-20T11:20:09.445-05:00Troll.Troll.Bill Bonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-30652224610976003732014-10-20T11:08:11.223-05:002014-10-20T11:08:11.223-05:00Your posts = unsubstantiated nonsense.
Come up ...Your posts = unsubstantiated nonsense. <br /><br /><br />Come up with confirmed facts to back up your tear sodden hypothesising or forever be dismissed as an attention seeking drama queen.CMIVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-75420791310007290572014-10-20T10:55:23.172-05:002014-10-20T10:55:23.172-05:00You answered yourself. Nothing NEW is planned othe...You answered yourself. Nothing NEW is planned other than the stargates and the space behind them, the rest just are changes to existing stuff. And care to guess why we don't have those stargates yet? Because (very literally) nullsec can't build them yet. Kronos was about giving nullsec the industrial muscle necessary to build the stargates -period. <br /><br />it all revolves around nullsec."The current lords of null-sec have had the game designed practically to their exact specifications for five years now" (Ripard Teg dixit). And here we are, with CCP Seagull following that "succesful" path, to Seagull Space and beyond.Bill Bonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-87760121345729103522014-10-20T10:13:52.071-05:002014-10-20T10:13:52.071-05:00Meh.
At the end of the day, if "CCP Bull-Dy...Meh. <br /><br />At the end of the day, if "CCP Bull-Dyke" doesn't cower and bow down to Lord Gianturco, the he-she-it will be out the door and down the road like so many others.<br /><br />This is nothing more than panem et circenses; a distraction for the masses to keep them spending their $14.95 per month.<br /><br />The ex-lawyer will, as always, get what he wants, regardless.<br /><br />He has a herd of 10k + idiots holding Pétursson hostage, and the Stockholm syndrome is exhibited in the extreme.Stu Pendisdicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-19004667117945544332014-10-20T10:03:36.648-05:002014-10-20T10:03:36.648-05:00"she is betting *everything* on player-built ..."she is betting *everything* on player-built gates"<br /><br />Ummm what? Because in the lead up to player built gates, nothing else changes? No other new things are introduced? Nothing is improved? Do you even play EvE?<br /><br />"those gates only fit in nullsec"<br /><br /><br /><br />Source plz.CMIVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-36067433612956777262014-10-20T09:59:44.046-05:002014-10-20T09:59:44.046-05:00Excellent post. Thanks for keeping us informed.Excellent post. Thanks for keeping us informed.CMIVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-82790389411171714612014-10-20T09:37:50.761-05:002014-10-20T09:37:50.761-05:00Thanks for the transcription, Nosy!
Anyway it mad...Thanks for the transcription, Nosy!<br /><br />Anyway it made nothing to soothe my growing feeling that CCP Seagull is a loony visionary who's going to kill EVE Online, as she is betting *everything* on player-built gates, and those gates will only be in nullsec.Bill Bonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-46720674420356452882014-10-20T08:43:26.528-05:002014-10-20T08:43:26.528-05:00Samsara,
Over on Sugar Kyle's blog she did a c...Samsara,<br />Over on Sugar Kyle's blog she did a creditable job of giving us the Q&A that took place a the round table with Seagull and Manifest... a telling point was that at one point Seagull was asked...<br /><br /><i>Some changes seem made to stop emergent game play which seems against the sandbox. If a group oppressively dominates the sandbox should allow that but you are making changes to stop that.</i><br /><br />Uhh... what? <i>...If a group oppressively dominates the sandbox should allow that...</i> Really, I mean effin really??? Oh Hell no. I simply cannot believe some people.<br /><br />Seagull answered this obvious goon troll thus;<br /><br /><i>When we add things into Eve it is a form of behavior shaping. Our responsibility is to make a rule set and a landscape that makes it as good a game as it can be for many people. If the environment is unbalanced it is our responsibility to try to correct the flaws or change them and not be afraid because they have always been broken. It is not a simple system. We have avoided changes for fear that changes are bad. But we want an interesting and viability world for as many people as possible so we have to make things change even if some things won't be liked.</i><br /><br /><br />Good answer.TurAmarthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-81201794965267896982014-10-20T08:35:46.870-05:002014-10-20T08:35:46.870-05:00I disagree, I do not think you went overboard at a...I disagree, I do not think you went overboard at all, as a matter of fact I really wish these occasions such as keynotes or round tables were recorded and transcribed for further dissemination to those of us who were unable to be present.<br /><br />Watching the vids of these are good, but it is really worthwhile for dissemination on blogs and for discussion.<br /><br /><br /><br />Thank you for taking the time Nosy.TurAmarthnoreply@blogger.com