tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post3258785978825492763..comments2023-10-25T07:19:08.019-05:00Comments on The Nosy Gamer: ISBoxer: Unexpected Attention And Unanswered QuestionsNoizyGamerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-11478273368786622582014-07-05T14:38:45.507-05:002014-07-05T14:38:45.507-05:00Dins isn't always right, but he is this time.
...Dins isn't always right, but he is this time.<br /><br />CCP has already internally discussed the use of ISBoxer and made the exec-level decision that, as long as it isn't being used for RMT, there is no sound financial reason to ban its use and lose the revenue from those accounts.<br /><br />As for being a violation of the EULA, well... technically, it is not. CCP devs have repeatedly told players that they are turning a blind eye to ISBoxer, therefore, everyone is free to use it until CCP says otherwise. Thus no unfair advantage. You might as well claim that having multiple accounts in general is an EULA violation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-37687453203339971302014-07-03T11:31:41.026-05:002014-07-03T11:31:41.026-05:00I have no issues with this app. Not my play style...I have no issues with this app. Not my play style and I lose no sleep regarding its use...but that's me.Dunmer Orionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-30087920274301262862014-07-02T18:56:40.019-05:002014-07-02T18:56:40.019-05:00I think I may have been unclear. I believe it will...I think I may have been unclear. I believe it will not affect CCP's revenue much if they ban all the ISBoxer accounts, so they should go ahead and do that.A concerned Minmatarhttp://gmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-26808474104585763912014-07-02T18:47:55.278-05:002014-07-02T18:47:55.278-05:00You could also include Roc and Pajama Sam with Cap...You could also include Roc and Pajama Sam with Capsuleer from so long ago in that as well. That is a very good question.NoizyGamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-39942770527406064392014-07-02T18:45:14.861-05:002014-07-02T18:45:14.861-05:00@A concerned Minmatar - One could argue that if th...@A concerned Minmatar - One could argue that if the people with the large ISBoxer fleets no longer are paying top ISK for PLEX, then the price of ISK will go down and the more casual player will be able to purchase PLEX. But how many PLEX do ISBoxers buy in a month? 4000? That's less than 2 days of sales in Jita. Still, that is quite a bit of ISK.NoizyGamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-25828221143984925012014-07-02T15:27:11.597-05:002014-07-02T15:27:11.597-05:00The revenue from ISBoxer accounts comes from PLEX,...The revenue from ISBoxer accounts comes from PLEX, not direct subscriptions. Thus, if they leave it will not have any effect on CCP's finances unless their number makes up a large enough fraction of PLEX buyers that it causes a noticeable dip in PLEX prices. First of all I don't think that's true, secondly PLEX are perhaps too expensive already, prohibiting some people from running legit accounts. A concerned Minmatarhttp://gmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-87154723160452223272014-07-02T14:57:42.631-05:002014-07-02T14:57:42.631-05:00And i got one more question. Why is CCP allowing I...And i got one more question. Why is CCP allowing IS to make a ton of money off their game. They went after the eveiseasy guys as soon as they tried to monitize but if you write bot software its ok? (yeah i know by itself its not a bot but lol we all know there are bots that only run if u pay for IS.)Fire Bushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16302444339498102886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-27590838688877737622014-07-02T14:50:10.195-05:002014-07-02T14:50:10.195-05:0024b isn't alot of u have 50 accounts.......esp...24b isn't alot of u have 50 accounts.......esp when u can make a bil and hour using a few of their alts in a wh or even incursions. I said it b4 and ill say it again they are plexing their accounts wont cost ccp a dime. Ur right not many can afford it did but the whole 10 guys really abusing isboxer can. The only one losing money off eve banning isboxer is IS. And u can't really blame this one on 0.0 other then a few of the ISbomber guys. Alot of these guys multibox so they dont have to be a null sec grunt with no freedom. I know it's the reason I started. And.my last point other then the few guys really abusing this you pry wont even see alot of accounts unsubbed. Hell is even bet that a large majority of the multiboxers in eve dont even use ISboxer. Just the people that are abusing the multi broadcast of commands. Fire Bushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16302444339498102886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-66782516432475283302014-07-02T12:45:13.203-05:002014-07-02T12:45:13.203-05:00That tipping point you mention is NOT happening an...That tipping point you mention is NOT happening anytime soon, if ever, and it does not matter anymore.<br /><br />CCP has clearly indicated that they want people to have more alt accounts, not less, since they have said "screw the casual player, we are focusing solely on the hardcore player". Casual players have less accounts. Hardcore players have more. And more accounts then leads to "more accounts online at once", which leads to ISBoxer.<br /><br />Once CCP handed the development reins to the cartels, it was lights out for the casual player.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05509895151523038252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-20969177979722634112014-07-02T11:56:47.772-05:002014-07-02T11:56:47.772-05:00"but I think he thinks that having a pilot ac..."but I think he thinks that having a pilot actively at the keyboard for each ship in space, even if using ISBoxer, is better than seeing pilots park their ships and walk away from the keyboard."<br /><br />To be fair, I'd be inclined to agree with this overall sentiment, because fuck afk "gameplay". But that's obviously more to do with "fuck afk "gameplay"" than it is about isboxer.mynnnanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-54031219152907513062014-07-02T11:46:40.192-05:002014-07-02T11:46:40.192-05:00You are looking at it from one side, Dinsdale, I a...You are looking at it from one side, Dinsdale, I am looking at it from the other. If frustration with other people ISBOXING starts to drive people away from the game because they see it as an unfair advantage then at what point will the balance lean towards stopping the boxers to keep the real players?<br /><br />If you do not act and if there is a bleed of the solo player then eventually the isboxers will find themselves all alone, at what point will they also wander off to find another game?<br /><br />mAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-79058342899484175092014-07-02T09:28:31.906-05:002014-07-02T09:28:31.906-05:00Said it before, will say it again. CCP cannot affo...Said it before, will say it again. CCP cannot afford to kill ISBoxer, because of the subscription hit. Does anyone seriously think that if CCP wipes out the 30 account stealth bomber players, that 30 more accounts by other individuals will spring up to replace them? Or the 50 miner fleets, or the 10 Paladin or 12 Vargur fleets?<br /><br />Subs are already down. They are going to take another hit when the full impact of Crius and the autumn's T2 invention changes come crashing down on the high sec industrialist.<br /><br />There is no way CCP can afford to kill off ISBoxer as well. Wiping out just one 50 miner fleet and one 30 stealth bomber fleet = 78 accounts (assume the player retains 1) = approx 1000 dollars a month in top line revenue<br /><br />Oh, and as an aside, not many can afford the 22-24 billion in ISK it takes to plex 30 stealth bombers every month, unless they are making insane amounts of ISK. How many of these ISBoxer's operated like that before the Blue Blanket covered so much of null?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05509895151523038252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-90166751795506298902014-07-02T09:13:52.070-05:002014-07-02T09:13:52.070-05:00It got banned in WoW pvp cuz people like one of my...It got banned in WoW pvp cuz people like one of my friends were running around with 9 nukers in what he called his anti-twink set up. Yeah u can control 9 toons in a WSAD game but lol it give u no advantage in eve. I also dont get the argument that it helps with the UI. This is bullshit. Like sugar said after 4 boxes most real humans will start to make mistakes. ISboxer eliminates this and thats why its cheating. And saying that having someone isboxing is better then afk cuz lol if the isboxer is mining hes pry semi afk. In summery multiboxing itself is already an advantage, ISboxer thats that advantage and turns it into something a normal player cant compete with. Id like to see someone 7 box bombers and get perfect runs with no ISboxer...most i can do it with is 4.Fire Bushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16302444339498102886noreply@blogger.com