tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post3404609329613774687..comments2023-10-25T07:19:08.019-05:00Comments on The Nosy Gamer: Mouse Without BordersNoizyGamerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-82127180964517612402013-03-26T08:31:22.892-05:002013-03-26T08:31:22.892-05:00Thanks for this little gem (mouse without borders ...Thanks for this little gem (mouse without borders that is).<br /><br />Swapped from Synergy to ID and felt I had it down, but there are naggling little issues with ID (esp when doing cut'n'paste between computers) and this one works without a single hitch.<br /><br />And like others, I often run multiple clients (1 - 3) on 3 different computers (and monitors) because I prefer to see what's up.<br /><br />Never felt the need, nor drive to figure out how to use macros or replicating clicks.<br /><br />I just enjoy not having to have 3 mouse/keyboard combos on my desk.<br /><br />(And hooking the laptop to the circus means that I don't have to bother with the tiny keyboard and annoying strip of foil they pretend to work as a mouse).<br />hdwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03874619485759606610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-68648297783270558712013-03-19T05:53:09.420-05:002013-03-19T05:53:09.420-05:00Well, it still is a serious point. EVEMon is thir...Well, it still is a serious point. EVEMon is third party software that facilitates gameplay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-44316087448756565642013-03-18T13:35:09.688-05:002013-03-18T13:35:09.688-05:00Yes... your OS may be third party software... but ...Yes... your OS may be third party software... but strangely I don't think Microsoft wrote XP or Win 7 as a mod/tool/utility expressly gaming, or the game EVE Online... But if you want to be childish and take the extreme sophomoric argument that Unless EVE comes with it's own operating system CCP will ban you... then go right ahead... but please, be considerate of the adults who wish to have a reasonable discourse on this subject, and go forum whine elsewhere.<br /><br />And unlike the generous Mr. Noisy... -1 for your childish attempts at logic.. nothing but fail.Turamarth Elrandirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08129383421613323047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-76855454647104504052013-03-18T13:25:48.021-05:002013-03-18T13:25:48.021-05:00Wow... U Mad Bro? So upset at little ol me that ya...Wow... U Mad Bro? So upset at little ol me that ya gotcher panties all inna bunch now dontcha? LOL<br /><br />Ahhhh... it's soo easy... so very very easy... run along now, you're bothering the adults. =]Turamarth Elrandirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08129383421613323047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-51034809832464696072013-03-16T21:29:03.782-05:002013-03-16T21:29:03.782-05:00Your OS is 3rd party software. THEY CAN BAN U FOR ...Your OS is 3rd party software. THEY CAN BAN U FOR ANYTHINGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-57647185976380705212013-03-16T21:27:01.868-05:002013-03-16T21:27:01.868-05:00if they start banning for synegery they will ban f...if they start banning for synegery they will ban for mouse w/o borders. Ive always felt that ISBOXER was cheating. I am a multi boxer and as far as im concerned broadcasting commands is just as bad as botting. That said if they do start banning for programs that allow you to use multi computers they will lose my subs. Im not plugging in 2 extra kb and mice just to play eve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-5940747939949072562013-03-16T15:47:39.898-05:002013-03-16T15:47:39.898-05:00Lord help you if you have encryption. Clearly the...Lord help you if you have encryption. Clearly the only people that need encryption are terrorists and pedophiles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-5679471958566371532013-03-16T15:40:33.709-05:002013-03-16T15:40:33.709-05:00This is a genuine question - why am I a troll, but...This is a genuine question - why am I a troll, but the guy who says that if you question CCPs methods, you are a cheater, is not a troll?<br /><br />Also, you should read the rest of the thread, or even the first post. Those dll checks are being executed using the method GetModuleHandleA - which, while ISXEVE is closed source and I can't say for sure that Ama is doing it right, ISXEQ hasn't been vulnerable to that kind of check in like 4 years.enneracthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05895319949383192745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-20007783669261095632013-03-16T13:37:23.372-05:002013-03-16T13:37:23.372-05:00Sorry, but you are behind the times. According to...Sorry, but you are behind the times. According to civan, the developer of Red Guard, here is what CCP is checking for...<br /><br />http://www.publicdemands.co.uk/showthread.php?24120-New-week-new-scans-CCP-detection-status<br /><br />-> Check whether isxeve.dll is loaded<br />-> Check whether directeve.dll is loaded.<br />-> A check for probehelper script (is that still working even?)<br />-> A check for autopilot hack.<br />-> A check for IsDebuggerPresent (somebody should tell them they they got one already in their binary)<br /><br />Was CCP checking for anything else or will CCP begin checking for new things? Or if bot developers are successful in hiding their processes from now on, will CCP just say "fuck it!" and ban Inner Space as being the easiest way to take care of the problem?<br /><br />And with this I will stop feeding the troll.NoizyGamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-77775854125227420972013-03-16T01:19:51.693-05:002013-03-16T01:19:51.693-05:00Remember kids, if you don't play the game the ...Remember kids, if you don't play the game the way cranky Uncle Tur wants, then you are a bad person and should feel bad. Just quit now. You have alts? Schizo! Head case!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-3816025099932956142013-03-15T20:40:58.504-05:002013-03-15T20:40:58.504-05:00I do read the botting forums, I know Lax and Amade...I do read the botting forums, I know Lax and Amadeus from the MQ2 days. MQ2 was hella fun, and sparked my interest which has led to my current career, but it ruined EQ for me, so using the spiritual successor (ISXEVE) is something I haven't done. I used InnerSpace with Eve, and still use it for some other games for its abilities to manipulate the way the game is rendered (fake fullscreen, which was very nice for eve before they officially implemented it, but other games havent caught up), but I stay more or less up to date out of professional curiosity. <br /><br />And people have seriously been banned for using Synergy? I need to investigate this. If this is true, and use of Synergy was truly all that was happening, and it was detected by software scanning... I'm done with this game. enneracthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05895319949383192745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-51160461631285992232013-03-15T20:35:15.814-05:002013-03-15T20:35:15.814-05:00By that logic, you shouldnt run ANYTHING on your c...By that logic, you shouldnt run ANYTHING on your computer other than Eve. They've given themselves the justification to ban you based on any software which is running on your computer, period. More to the point, they are saying that they will take the mere presence of tools to be evidence of cheating. <br /><br />This reminds of the old SecuRom DRM would which not let you install games if you had disc virtualization software installed, because it could be used to facilitate piracy (one of innumerable uses). Whats next in this, saying that having AutoHotKey or AutoIt installed/running is evidence for cheating? enneracthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05895319949383192745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-76013625402216340812013-03-15T20:30:15.508-05:002013-03-15T20:30:15.508-05:00I guess you don't read the botting forums :)
...I guess you don't read the botting forums :)<br /><br />And you do know that people have been banned for using Synergy in the past, right?NoizyGamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-36434238123164569622013-03-15T20:29:16.794-05:002013-03-15T20:29:16.794-05:00And if I knew for sure how all of these programs w...And if I knew for sure how all of these programs worked I might not be so paranoid. But if one of these programs puts something into the game's memory space, poof goes the account.<br /><br />+1 on the troll. I just wanted to make a point and you gave me the opening.NoizyGamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-91612108927621264282013-03-15T19:22:59.378-05:002013-03-15T19:22:59.378-05:00We have a little baby McCarthy here, don't we?...We have a little baby McCarthy here, don't we?<br /><br />If you don't have anything to hide, you don't need privacy, eh?<br /><br />Obviously I'm a botter if I have a problem with the idea of a third party scanning the programs running on my computer beyond the scope of what I have consented to (the memory space of the client itself).<br /><br />enneracthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05895319949383192745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-36111257581360139282013-03-15T17:41:59.018-05:002013-03-15T17:41:59.018-05:00@enneract... Unless you are a Dev or employee of C...@enneract... Unless you are a Dev or employee of CCP, you need to take care hen making bald faced statements about anything they can or can't do... and obviously you have a vested interest in them NOT finding bots or EULA violations or you wouldn't be so set against it... so...<br /><br /><i>"...the moment I quit Eve and never give CCP another dim."</i> and can that day come too soon? Nope!Turamarth Elrandirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08129383421613323047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-14379325520533882342013-03-15T14:42:49.679-05:002013-03-15T14:42:49.679-05:00I think it is telling how you are freaking out abo...I think it is telling how you are freaking out about this without direction. You don't know if a piece of software will or will not provoke the ire of CCP, even something as simple as a software KVM. There is no direction, other than vague fearmongering. This is the kind of shit that fascist dictatorships, bad parents, or testosterone-poisoned managers pull, lol.<br /><br />Just by the way, here is the dirty little secret when it comes to CCP and their 'war on bots'. Their detection methods suck. The *good* bot software is not detectable programmaticly by CCP, it is detected behaviorally. They see someone moving massive amounts of isk around, someone logged in ridiculous amounts of time, someone who is relatively frequently reported as a bot by other players, they send someone to go check him out. <br /><br />They aren't going to detect you using InputDirector or Synergy - and, frankly, as soon as they ban someone for using that software is the moment I quit Eve and never give CCP another dim. Because it means that they are scanning people's computers outside of the memory space which they have any reasonable right to access (the eve client itself), and EVE has turned into spyware. Fuck that.enneracthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05895319949383192745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-50287532548734621802013-03-15T12:02:56.873-05:002013-03-15T12:02:56.873-05:00This is very interesting. So are you saying that y...This is very interesting. So are you saying that you "hope" that CCP will have no problems with Mouse without Borders? It sure would make Multi- boxing a lot easier.Steven Ziegenbuschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02310377093879540075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-33378206924390476072013-03-15T10:47:19.994-05:002013-03-15T10:47:19.994-05:00As far as I can tell Anet are strongly opposed to ...As far as I can tell Anet are strongly opposed to the kind of multiboxing that would be seen as normal in many other MMOs. The determination not to have any kind of /follow command shows that.<br /><br />After EQ2 went F2P and I found myself with several accounts I got into the habit of having three or four logged in at once and running characters around together using autofollow. It's common practice there. I never set up any macros or anything like that, just tabbed between the accounts and played each as needed, but it without the in-game autofollow that wouldn't have been feasible.<br /><br />I have two accounts in GW2 and it would be nice to be able to duo my characters but it's completely forbidden, other than in the circumstances outlined above. That pretty much limits you to laboriously moving two sets of characters from chest event to chest event or having one in town for banking purposes. I can't see much point bothering, other than to save the trouble of logging in and out.<br /><br />Also I get the feeling that there is a strong opinion from GW1 players that multiboxing is cheating plain and simple (an attitude which used to be the norm in most MMOs not that long ago) so I would expect to get reported by other players for playing two accounts regardless of what the official line might be. Certainly moderators on the official forums believe multiboxing is an EULA violation and my experience over many years tells me that GMs frequently have only a partial understanding of the rules they are paid to enforce.<br /><br />Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-77922902921944392052013-03-15T09:44:38.987-05:002013-03-15T09:44:38.987-05:00One of the critical items are #3 under Macros and ...One of the critical items are #3 under Macros and #4 under multi-boxing. That is a big difference between AreaNet and CCP (as we currently understand CCP anyway).<br /><br />As I often run 3 accounts on one machine and switch clients to push commands onto each client in turn, I'm not worried. However, those that click once for multiple responses on more than one machine may eventually be in for a big change.<br />Knug Lidihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08168621175894976018noreply@blogger.com