tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post792791158487244413..comments2023-10-25T07:19:08.019-05:00Comments on The Nosy Gamer: Casting Doubt On CCP's IntegrityNoizyGamerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-81822426956410267862013-06-27T03:29:32.520-05:002013-06-27T03:29:32.520-05:00Of course, with the outrage brewing CCP had to res...Of course, with the outrage brewing CCP had to respond. CCP Sreegs responded on the Eve Online forums on Tuesday during downtime...<br /><br /> "There are a number of <a href="http://www.safeeveisk.com/" rel="nofollow">eve isk online</a> things wrong with the assertions being made in other forums, which is a topic I'm sure the author of these posts is familiar with because we discussed them prior to <a href="http://www.safeeveisk.com/" rel="nofollow">cheap eve isk</a> his rather selective reporting of the incident. Here's the facts as we need be concerned from an eve perspective:dveeeeeeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08412063047955417993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-60975979368070702852013-02-14T21:00:49.861-06:002013-02-14T21:00:49.861-06:00Now that's a story. Every time I've heard...Now that's a story. Every time I've heard that someone's been falsely banned they've been compensated a lot. Of course that's been over the past year and I've only heard the comments from two of the players, one of them at Fanfest.NoizyGamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-45891116209677648992013-02-14T20:23:29.247-06:002013-02-14T20:23:29.247-06:00@Trebron - you can use your keyboard.
However, if...@Trebron - you can use your keyboard.<br /><br />However, if your macros are allowing you to perform certain activities at a rate which greatly exceeds what can be done manually in-game, then you will get flagged as a macro/bot. CCP will make no distinction between using a software macro or a hardware macro. <br /><br />The EULA rule is specifically against *anything* that gives you an unfair advantage over players who are using the in-game tools, or publicly available CCP-approved third-party tools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-33960148745761485442013-02-14T09:19:13.446-06:002013-02-14T09:19:13.446-06:00Funny. Using my keyboard is against the EULA.
I wo...Funny. Using my keyboard is against the EULA.<br />I won't get caught, I unsubscribed anyway and I did not use macros for Eve. But I would without thinking twice if I were into "playing the market". I still consider it to be a totally dumb rule. Forbid me to use my keyboard :)Trebron Zniehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11539481050781863223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-84404513460789281582013-02-13T16:51:25.783-06:002013-02-13T16:51:25.783-06:00CCP say removing isk should happen with ban, but n...CCP say removing isk should happen with ban, but not in this case. CCP claim this was Error and discussed it over three weeks.<br /><br />CCP won't tell players they remove isk base on the time using BOT when they detect it at first time. But not in this case.<br /><br />IF player decide to use bot make ISK at first time after play over one year, CCP detect it then ban 14 days and take all assets and ISK even if those were not earned by bot.<br /><br />Do you think it's acceptable? But CCP did it.<br /><br />14 days ban should be a warn. But not in this case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-70034527050161571642013-02-13T12:32:03.486-06:002013-02-13T12:32:03.486-06:00Kelduum threw a hissy fit because he wanted the c...Kelduum threw a hissy fit because he wanted the cash and thought being a csm member he would get more info but didn't. Then added conspiracy and pathetic whining. <br /><br />How to look like a moron and a fool in 50 seconds. <br /><br />I would still vote not him over xentura ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-40727618679420719482013-02-13T12:31:57.333-06:002013-02-13T12:31:57.333-06:00There will always be bad apples (those that are wi...There will always be bad apples (those that are willing to break the EULA to gain an in game advantage) in any corp. It follows that E-UNI will not be immune from this either. As I wrote in the EvE-O GD thread, I believe Keld put far too much trust in "John" and his protestations of innocence. Thank goodness CCP Sreegs put paid to any notion of doubt by stating that John was a botter.<br /><br />As a player that takes pride in being a Unista and the high game related standards the corp strives to achieve, some of the views expressed on our own public forum thread are, quite frankly, embarrassing.<br /><br />John was a botter, the ISK was rightfully confiscated and that should of been the end of the story. Team Security communication procedures (note, not details nor individual cases) and questions of oversight are a matter for the CCP/CSM skype/summit meetings within the secure blanket of the NDA.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07183853996974248316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-53158032554915220752013-02-13T09:58:19.716-06:002013-02-13T09:58:19.716-06:00As a matter of fact, yes. Read the EULA.
However...As a matter of fact, yes. Read the EULA.<br /><br />However, tracking usage of macro keys is more difficult to spot remotely, so chances are that you will get away with it (for now).<br /><br />Remember, though - just because you have not been caught yet, does not mean you are not cheating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-5378699400405898412013-02-13T09:47:40.886-06:002013-02-13T09:47:40.886-06:00Based on the response time, your friend's case...Based on the response time, your friend's case probably resulted from a GM issuing the ban, and it was most likely immediately reversed by Team Security, upon receipt of the petition, due to lack of sufficient evidence to conduct an investigation.<br /><br />6 hours is simply not enough time to conduct a full investigation into a potential RMT account.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-52800523631356147882013-02-13T09:45:24.556-06:002013-02-13T09:45:24.556-06:00I really see zero blame for CCP here. They did the...I really see zero blame for CCP here. They did their job and they were not required to give someone extra info just because that individual thinks they're special. The security team operates under OPSEC. <br /><br />I'm going to go suicide gank some juicy eve-uni guys in order to justify this stupid non-event. Anyone wanna join me?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-32289072140767310542013-02-13T09:41:23.392-06:002013-02-13T09:41:23.392-06:00"When CCP confirmed that it was illicit and t..."When CCP confirmed that it was illicit and took it away,..."<br />Did they? Or they only confirmed when they wore forced to?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-57136040478256976622013-02-13T09:39:58.590-06:002013-02-13T09:39:58.590-06:00So using macro keys on your keyboard to make borin...So using macro keys on your keyboard to make boring repetitive tasks less cumbersome is botting now?<br />Trebron Zniehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11539481050781863223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-45510092535001297672013-02-13T09:35:46.093-06:002013-02-13T09:35:46.093-06:00Yes, you should read the EULA.
If "John&qu...Yes, you should read the EULA. <br /><br />If "John" had thought to do so, before using his macro/bot/script/whatever to cheat, he might have avoided the well-deserved smackdown from Sreegs.<br /><br />If Kelduum has also thought to do so, before ranting in the E-UNI forums, he could have avoided a lot of public embarrassment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-53210054339946736712013-02-13T09:32:25.650-06:002013-02-13T09:32:25.650-06:00I know of a player who was banned because someone ...I know of a player who was banned because someone else reported his account as an RMT account. There was no investigation before the ban. CCP banned the player, then conducted the investigation. The player in question immediately petitioned, of course, and, to their credit, CCP removed the ban in less than 6 hours, but, still, to ban on just the suggestion?<br /><br />I get that companies have to protect themselves, but they also have to realize that they need to do it fairly and not assume everyone is guilty first. I've found that the longer one works in an enforcement environment, the increasingly likely it is that one begins to assume everyone is bad and snap judgements become the norm.<br /><br />That's not to say that Kelduum is in the right, here. Not at all. But the point raised about how CCP responds to legitimate questions about how they enforce policy on the folks what pays them is.Heretic Caldarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03015635188565858672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-37878732838560933042013-02-13T09:29:41.962-06:002013-02-13T09:29:41.962-06:00Kelduum thought - wrongly - that he'd get to k...Kelduum thought - wrongly - that he'd get to keep 300B+ illicit ISK by reporting it. Pretty stupid of him.<br /><br />When CCP confirmed that it was illicit and took it away, he was butt hurt and foolishly responded, in public, by attempting to cast doubts on Team Security.<br /><br />As it stands, Kelduum has just managed to cast himself in the role of the fool, deserving of no one's respect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-16262216173756953172013-02-13T09:20:27.755-06:002013-02-13T09:20:27.755-06:00RMTers have been known to transfer toons via the b...RMTers have been known to transfer toons via the bazaar, to different accounts, in order to mask their trail.<br /><br />One of the known risks of using the character bazaar to acquire a toon is the possibility of acquiring a tainted toon. You accepted that risk when you used the bazaar.<br /><br />In the end, you did prevail and get the ban reversed - so, stop whining. And, next time, just roll your own new toons, instead of trying to take shortcuts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-62311493797042185972013-02-13T09:02:27.411-06:002013-02-13T09:02:27.411-06:00Not surprising, I had an account banned once becau...Not surprising, I had an account banned once because it turned out that it had been involved in RMT weeks BEFORE I bought it through the character bazaar. I guess CCP doesn't check little details like who the owner of the character is before they ban it. Took me weeks of emails to get it back and all I ever got was a half assed apology.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-361508674426700372013-02-13T08:57:50.109-06:002013-02-13T08:57:50.109-06:00"otherwise manipulate data in any way to acqu..."otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game." - EULA<br /><br />Hahahahahaha. I really need to give this EULA a read through, good stuff.<br /><br />But seriously, Kelduum overreacts, CCP acts like CCP.Zenverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08019608131812046218noreply@blogger.com