tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post5204037275714436687..comments2023-10-25T07:19:08.019-05:00Comments on The Nosy Gamer: Jagex Joins The PLEX ParadeNoizyGamerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-11563149404740922752013-09-27T23:29:21.077-05:002013-09-27T23:29:21.077-05:00Correct. Just because the amount confiscated and ...Correct. Just because the amount confiscated and number of bans has gone down doesn't mean the activity has gone down. Even the activity I've seen on the RMT sites doesn't mean the activity has gone down. It could be that the botters are selling their ISK on botting forums & player auction sites. I've found a couple and I think the price there is going up as well.NoizyGamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-63179580027044694192013-09-27T11:07:28.279-05:002013-09-27T11:07:28.279-05:00@ NoizyGame: I read the slide show, but missed the...@ NoizyGame: I read the slide show, but missed the amount of ISK confiscated.<br />So if I am understanding what you are saying properly, in 7 or 8 months of 2013, CCP seized about 50-60,000 US dollars worth, but they are not saying what percent of the RMT market that represents, because they don't really know.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05509895151523038252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-13030842421152211492013-09-26T22:47:14.827-05:002013-09-26T22:47:14.827-05:00I just checked Twitter, and this is what CCP Still...I just checked Twitter, and this is what CCP Stillman said:<br /><br />Me: If an MMO company states that they are detecting 90% of bots then I question if they know what they are doing.<br /><br />Stillman: That's why we don't state such things. If we knew that we caught 90%, it implies we know of the last 10%. Many don't get this.<br /><br />Jagex claims they are catching 90% of bots. I took it that they catch 90% of botters. Darius JOHNSON pointed out that it could mean they can detect 90% of the bots being used. Either way, I don't think Jagex really can tell how big the problem is, except to know how much they've actually seized.NoizyGamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-32303262373607252992013-09-26T22:25:07.452-05:002013-09-26T22:25:07.452-05:00You mean you didn't read CCP Stillman's pr...You mean you didn't read CCP Stillman's presentation that I linked to on Monday? He didn't have a slide with a specific figure, but from January to August CCP had seized approximately 1.8 trillion ISK. That comes out to be roughly between $50,000 - $60,000. If you go back to last year, from May 2012 to August 2013 the amount seized was approximately 5.6 trillion ISK, or roughtly between $170K - $190K.<br /><br />I don't think that CCP is terrified of disclosing the numbers. I think that CCP legitimately does not know the extent of the problem. If there is a difference, it is that CCP has driven the activity way underground and in Runescape botting is so accepted that people do it pretty openly, despite the bans. Or Jagex is fooling itself and the problem is much worse than they think. NoizyGamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315716516032999133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-37826600726971070602013-09-26T18:34:45.738-05:002013-09-26T18:34:45.738-05:00So this company can announce how much RMT is takin...So this company can announce how much RMT is taking place in their game, and it did not take you that long to sort out the value of the overall RMT market in that game. But with Eve, oh no, CCP can't announce how much ISK was confiscated, or what their estimates on how much ISK is involved, which would allow you to sort out real quick the scope of the RMT operations within Eve.<br /><br />So what is different between Jagex and CCP. Why can one company disclose generalities and overall numbers, while the other company is terrified to do so?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05509895151523038252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942059813481083566.post-85348625032745411622013-09-26T14:54:15.883-05:002013-09-26T14:54:15.883-05:00IMO what all the game companies really should do i...IMO what all the game companies really should do is just make selling gold (isk or w/e) allowed... As long as it's through their system where they take a (say 10%) cut on every transaction.<br /><br />Of course with real money involved they'd probably have to start taking scams a bit more seriously.<br /><br />And if they use the exiting market to sell it they'd finally have to fix the retarded order entry system too... With real money involved it'd only take one typo adding 3 extra zeros to a buy price to cause a huge problem for CCP.MoxNixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407914481361718041noreply@blogger.com